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02/01/2009 12:58 AM Alert 

Hi, I am Carrie, a recovering  alcoholic and now a recovering/grieving mom who lost her youngest son to the disease of alcohol.

 

First, I'd love to thank Skye and The Realm Team for placing this new category up. I had began my story on another thread entitled "My Tragedy", and I didn't wanna hog all the beautiful support.

Some here know the story of my Daniel.  It was on March 10th, of 2008 when every parent who struggles while watching their child in active addiction,dreads to receive.  My son had died. It was his brother whom had phoned me and I could barely make out what he was saying.  The only part I could get was "dan dead", it was then I dropped the phone and fell to my knee's.  Screaming "Oh God no, please God no no no no!" I barely recall the rest.

 

Dan was my youngest son, he was 23 years of age, he and I had been on the 'outs' since I had began to set boundaries. He had struggled with addiction for roughly 5 years. At one point, he was hospitalized for shooting cocaine, and had was down to 86 lbs!  I took my son to his very first AA meeting. I did an intervention and he went to treatment. He did stop using the cocaine, and merely traded it for alcohol.

 

I know I cannot be the 'only' mom in recovery whom has lost a child. I also believe that those of us in Recovery know someone who has died due to this disease. I hope to gain some support, and I truly would love to help anyone here that I can. I do not want my son's death to be in vain. If I can help just ONE person, just one, this will all be worth it, and I mean that from my soul.

 

It's painful to talk about, but there is, for me, healing in 'sharing'. 

 

On the other thread I had promised that I would keep the Realm Family up to date on his autopsy. (I barely even recall writing that thread)

 

I did get his autopsy report.  His Blood Alcohol Content was near comatose level when he died. The coroner ruled his death :  Suicide by Hanging. It also said that he had aspirational pnuemonia, and having researched that, I found out that it is brought on by alcoholism. I do NOT believe my son meant to die.  He had a girlfriend which he had just broke up with.  While he tried to stop drinking she refused to believe he was an alcoholic. Often she would tell him "Come on can't you just have one? Even at dinner?"  Dan would tell her "I am an alcoholic, I cannot have just one of anything."

 

As time went by, he got almost 30 days sober. He called me and had (in his words, cuz he stopped attending mtgs) "fell off the wagon." He was filled with remorse and could not get beyond his past. That's why WE need the 12 steps, but he did not chose to do that. He chose, instead, to try to stop on his own willpower. We know that usually does not have a great outcome.

 

I worried so much about my son.  Day in and out, I worried. I'd hang out in the chat room just to find some solace from the head racing I had going on.  See, I knew I was going to bury my child, I knew it. Yet, when it happened, I simply refused to believe it.  I still find it hard to believe and it's been close to one year now.

 

The shock of losing a loved one, at times, can cause our brain to overload and 'protect' us from being overtaken by pain to hard to grasp.

 

I would like to share this:  During the first month my child died, I had what I called 'sober blackouts', the therapists called it : Disaccociated. By that I mean, I would suddenly 'come to' in different rooms of my home, I came to once in my spare room, on my knee's, I guess I went in there to pray, and fell asleep?  Another time, I had came to standing over top of my stove, all 4 burners going, but nothing on the stove. Yes, I felt like I had lost it. My therapist told me that I was suffering also from PTSD.

My son left behind 4 children. Currently, the 2 little girls of his and their mom are living with me. I believe God sent them here, because my hubby works nights, and I needed someone.

Ya know, I may not recall much after Daniel's death, but, I have journals, I have this site, and others where I go.  I blog on myspace and on yahoo360. 

I do my best to live in today.  I am just now really coming out of the darkest time in my life. I loved my son, omgosh, how I love him still. The pain, the agony, the grief, it comes now, in waves.

 

I have heard some pretty harsh things, in a lot of places, by a lot of people. I've been told "you need to forget him, so you can live" and I've also been told in a f2f mtg "Stop feeling sorry for yourself" let me say this:  I hold no ill will towards those who have made such insensitive and cruel remarks. I do as the program says, I now pray for them. I pray NOBODY has to ever feel this kind of pain. But reality is, there will be more whom do.

I earnestly hope and pray that anyone reading this knows, we here at the Realm CARE!!!! There has been NO ill comments to me here. I had 3 and a half years sober, and the 2nd month after my son died I drank.Dagnabit, I so wanted to be the one with the testimoney that I went through my loss and never picked up. I don't have that testimoney. What I DO have is support now.  I have it in a lot of places. Meetings, friends, church, and here! Man I cannot stress enough the love and acceptance when I had to admitt that I blew it.

What I did not expect was to still be loved. Yet, it was here that I received the MOST help, and I am sincere when I say that. The people here opened arms of love, and encouraged me to 'get up' and not just lay there.  They have told me what I needed to hear, and done so in much love.

I am thankful for this site! I cannot say that enough. I am thankful for this new place here that they opened up so that ANYONE who EVER lost anyone to this disease, or are just grieving a loss, can come and perhaps open up and get some encouragement.

I could go on and on, yet it's late, I'm tired, and I know when it is time to shushh, lol...

So again, THANK YOU REALM!!!!

I look forward to seeing and receiving the newbies, and those who just need a kind word to get them through. I know there are some who are housebound and cannot get out. Here now is a place for 'us' to come. To reflect, to offer help and to encourage each other.

 

May God continue to bless us as we trudge this happy road TOGETHER....much love, Carrie S.Rest in Peace my baby boy:

Daniel T. Dob: 5-15-84

Went to rest with the angels on: 3-10-08


To a desolate person an act of kindness can be the difference between getting bitter and getting better..............
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02/02/2009 2:01 AM Alert 

Ya know my dear, I just love ya. 

Whether you think it or not, you have walked this past 11 months with grace, even in the midst of the immense pain you have experienced.  I'm not to sure I could be as selfless as I have seen you to be in regards to making sure that your grief does not affect others in your family that are grieving.

You may think those two little girls were sent to you because you need them, but I believe they were sent to you because they needed you! You have been so wonderful with them in helping them to get through this.

Thanks for sharing with us. I have no doubt in my mind that you are going to help others, whether it be through this forum, or some other arena.

I never thought that when I started to hang out on the internet that I would meet people that would end up being so dear to me. You are one of those people.


And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud
was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. ~~~Anais Nin


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02/02/2009 11:01 PM Alert 
I have a close friend who's son killed himself. he was stuck in his addiction and no one could reach him. she is moving to california from texas as I write. I told her good bye yesterday at an AA "convention." she held me close and cried. She then thanked me saying I was the only person beside her husband that talked to her about his death. she said it was awful for her when people avoided her and acted like nothing had happened. His name was David. I knew her from AA and we were casuel friends. We painted watercolors together some times. Davids death changed all that. She needed to talk and cry and I was given the gift from God to listen. I saw a piece of her die when David killed himself. there will always be a hole. She told me there is no closure with death of a child. I believe her. We had a sobriety count down and she stood up for 39 years. she is moving to California to be closer to her other son. i watched her be transformed by David's suicide. now one day she told me she went to see a lady that does tapping. I did not really get how it helped her. it was tapping your hand or something and saying something like i am a valuable and love myself. anyways it sounded kinda far out to me. I could not argue with it though b/c after that one day she seemed to drop the heavy mils stone and become lighter. I could not understand it but what ever it was it renewed her.
my oldest daughter was born in may of 1984. I am sorry very sorry for the loss of your son Dan. I feel this after davids death and another friend in the program I wish they had done something anything other than end their life. so if you relapsed give yourself some forgiveness. you bear witness to others your courage and honesty.
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02/03/2009 10:35 AM Alert 

(((((((((((((((Carrie))))))))))))))))

You are a miracle!

I admire you so much for turning your personal tragedy into a way to help others.

Thank you for being you.


Be the change you wish to see in the world ...Gandhi
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02/04/2009 9:15 AM Alert 
Seeing your strength through this inspires and amazies me every day, Carrie (((hugs))) I didn't know your son but i know you, and you show me that it is possible to get through the worst thing that I could imagen clean and sober. <3

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They both keep you company when you're getting clean.
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02/04/2009 10:22 AM Alert 
Hi Carrie, I am new to the recovery realm and I just had a son. He is 5 months old and I don't know what I would do if I were in your situation. I can only imagine how tragic and painful it must be for you. I want to say that I admire you. You seem strong and adminent in moving along in order to remain in recovery and help others. I am sure Daniel is smiling down on you. =) I do want to say that it scares me so much. Although my little one is still small, I know that this disease is a family disease and it affects us as a whole. My parents are alcoholics and addiction flows throughout our entire household. I hope and pray that I can continue the path so that I can at least be a different role model for my son in hopes that he may have a chance of knowing about recovery. Thanks for your post!
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02/04/2009 11:57 AM Alert 
Hi Carrie,

I lost a brother to the diease he was drinking and driving and so was the person who hit him on his motorcycle. At that time I blamed God and I continued to drink. I am also new to Realm but it is helping me open up and I am sober 9 months.
I could not even image losing a child, I read your story three times over and I don't want to die from being an alkie and hurt people who love me. So you just helped me understand the pain I gave my family. I do believe your grandchildren need you more then you need them. God bless you for writing this story. I am so sorry for you loss. Ken
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02/04/2009 11:04 PM Alert 
Hi everyone Just wanted to say thank you for the tremendous outpouring of love and support. TxMary: what a wonderful tribute and what a wonderful friend you are , wow....

Kaff, Flutter,Duckling, You are precious women who truly inspire me, you lift me up when I am low, and it has been an honor to call you friends

KB, (((((((((((((((recovery HUGZ)))))))))))))) Congrats on the 9 months see it is people ken, like you and mary, and countless others that help me! I am so sorry ken, for your loss. My 2 other sons are so lost, and they continue to drink as they too, are in addiction. It is so heartbreaking to see them not grieve, but simply self medicate. The day will come hopefully, for them, when they WILL sober up, like you and will be able then to grieve the best way: Sober. Ken, it touches me to know that you are 9 months sober it's the best gift you have ever been given. The beauty of this is, we can now pay it forward, not live in regret, but help others , thank you again, all of you

To a desolate person an act of kindness can be the difference between getting bitter and getting better..............
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02/11/2009 4:50 PM Alert 
Thank you for sharing your story. This is my first time on the site, and it's already proven inspirational. I know what it's like to loose someone to addiction all too well. I come from a long long line of alcoholics and have lost four family members to related deaths. I have also lost three cousins to heroin, and a good friend to acid. I have battled heroin and cocaine addictions myself, and not even the deaths of my closest family made me realize. My remaining cousins had to intervene. I am now drug addiction free, but have turned to alcohol. I think about the eight beautiful people I have lost, and it's hard to live with. Not one day goes by when I don't think of them and miss them and ask them why. Yesterday, I did K, drank four beers, three glasses of wine, and over ten shots of vodka. I walked home, and at that moment I knew I needed help. I know how it feels to loose not only one loved one, but many. I don't want to do that to my family, my friends. They have suffered enough, as I have. I refuse to be next on the list.

Thank you to everyone involved in this site. I could never do this alone. And none of you should have to either.
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02/12/2009 10:21 PM Alert 
(((((((((((((((((((((((Jane)))))))))))))))))))) I can feel your pain even though we sit behind a keyboard. You know Jane, the beauty of a 12 step program is 'we' don't have to die, we can choose to live, and to do that, for me, after such a tragic loss, was to realize: I do NOT wanna go out that way either. My God gave me a gift, actually many....Life, breathe, the ability to love, and now: Sobriety. I can not do this alone, none of us can. We need each other. Your family needs you too Jane! I like what u had to say about refusing to be 'next' , my suggestion: Get help ! Seek it immediately so you won't b the next one on that list. Grief is hard Jane, I can so relate, and it is even more difficult when we are sober, and having to feel it. Others may deal with it in their addiction, for me, it took that one night out 'there' to see that I do NOT want to go back 'there'...that was my hell. It does not have to be yours. Know that WE are here for you. Day and night Jane, and may I say "WELCOME" ty Jane....as I get ready now for bed, when I get on my knee's and thank my God, I shall pray for you....let us help you Jane, let us love u till u can love yourself Jane: MAJOR HUGZ..........................Carrie

To a desolate person an act of kindness can be the difference between getting bitter and getting better..............
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02/15/2009 8:41 PM Alert 

Carrie you are an amazing Women and a Strong Women;  with all that has come before you I know you give Hope and Love to All that are honored to be called a Friend..

You have given me words of wisdom in my Own Recovery process and for that I Thank-You...

 

Love You Carrie

Love Merry Best Friends 1


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04/19/2009 11:44 PM Alert 

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04/20/2009 9:22 AM Alert 
Carrie;
I have read through this thread many times since coming to the realm in january. I always have wanted to post here, but just never knew exactly what. Well now I do. First of all I think that you are an amazing person. You see it takes a very special person to take something like you have gone through and turn that into hope and help for others. I myself have not had to experience the loss of someone while I am in recovery. I am sure that someday that will come. I know though that after reading your stories and hearing your ESH on all of this that I will be ok. I do know someone that is close to me that last year was told that for him to drink again would kill more of his liver. He tried to stop drinking on his own and now he is drinking again. He is my fiance`s father. It does not seem that he cares what he is doing to himself or his family. I have told my fiance` that the family should tell his doctor what he is doing. I also pray for him and the rest of the family everyday. We can only hope and pray that he sees the light before the disease takes him. Anyway Carrie I would like to say that you are a total inspiration. Thank you so much for being you.
Much recovery love and great big bear hugs to you.
T Bear(Fred)
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04/30/2009 10:59 PM Alert 
Thank You TBear! The beauty of the many 12 step programs available is that we DON'T have to lose a loved one. We may be the only 'hope' they ever see. Believe me, watching my family disappear from my life when I first got sober hurt too. They think I'm no fun no more. Sometimes recovery means walking away in love, yet when it's our own family, man, it sucks. They rallied around me when my son died. Then, sadly, away they went again. But I do believe God never takes anything from us without giving something back such is my story. I have ALL the wonderful recovery peeps, and each of you here who I know love me. It is VERY important to mention also, when my son was in the hospital, I HAD to tell his Doctor of his alcoholism, as we didn't want him to begin detoxing in there and die!!!!!!! I've seen this happen too. Don't be afraid to tell the Dr., they need to know should anything happen. I refuse to 'cover or enable' ANYONE whom I know drinks/drugs in time of crisis by keeping 'their secret', I've heard were as sick as our secrets, I say our secrets can KILL ! I'd gladly take the flack from anyone to of brought my son to the place of help again. Depression sucks, he had suffered from that as well. He stopped taking his meds

Finally I wanna say this: On March 10th, the first year of my child's death, I had the honor of my hubby taking me to California I got reconnected to my sister who is in recovery now and doing GREAT! She treated me like a princess (sorry melly lol) and for me, it was healing. I got the idea from reading the thread about not celebrating death, but celebrating life, i believe Skyee wrote that THANK YOU WHOMEVER DID!!!!! Today I try daily to recall the good, and there was good, it wasn't all bad. I'll carry my child in the womb of my heart until God takes me home. I love ya's...da frog

To a desolate person an act of kindness can be the difference between getting bitter and getting better..............
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06/01/2009 12:34 AM Alert 

carrie,

today was the one year aniversary of my friends death so i can relate to the feelings of getting that dreaded call i still remember the pain i felt and still felt. and the past week has been hell and ive struggled to keep it together relapse is part of my story and i almost turned to the bottle sunday morning  but instead i turned to my routes of being a self mutilator  i have to say today has been one of my hardest days of having almost a year clean and i spent the day with my friends family and crying alot i miss her alot but i got to say i know things will get better as long as i dont pick up or i hope it does  i dont want to live with the pain anymore and i miss her so much she was only 17 just about to finish highschool i cant imagine the pain of losing a son but i know how it felt to loose her so i just thought id share what was going on with me.

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06/01/2009 8:35 PM Alert 

I can't believe i've been here for several months and haven't already read this... i am truly  sorry about Daniel... it caught my attention immediately after i started reading... you see, i began this road of recovery in 1988... i was 23 years old and got my 2nd divorce, and 2 DUI's, all within 3 weeks of each other... i wish i could say i went to treatment and stayed sober, but i can't... i continued to live without any sense for another 18 years... i'm glad you're here carrie, and i hope to hear more of your experience.


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06/02/2009 7:23 AM Alert 
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06/02/2009 7:39 AM Alert 
How so sad that her of your story you lost your son . By the way i only offer you this inspirational ebook its all about thinking God I lost my baby just search it in google Thank God My son

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03/19/2010 12:11 PM Alert 
you are an inspriational lady
your story so moved me
so sorry about your loss
Rosey
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